Grab, Avoid or Bore Off! – Fantasy Premier League 2016-17
FPL is finally open and ready for business and so are we with a new edition of Bore Off. This will only be one of the many articles we will try and bring you over the coming weeks, all leading to GW1 and the beginning of another season. For any new members we welcome you to the site and we hope you enjoy this article. For the veterans, you know the drill. Cookie (United fan) hates Liverpool, Init (Everton fan) hates Liverpool and Kop (Liverpool fan) hates Liverpool. Think that is a fair assessment of all three. Well ok, having seen the prices and some of the options I have called back The Three Amigos from their summer vacation to get some early observations from them for questions that many of us are wondering about.
Who should we turn to at City? Is Cesc worth considering? And Giroud…of course, don’t matter what the question is about, it’s Giroud. So without further ado, let us get to our question and answer segment quickly so we can let Cookie go back to watching Love Island and complaining about Theo being out.
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Hey guys
Good to back again and I appreciate the email I got when I couldn’t log in
Thoughts on Abraham(Swansea)?
I might go for him as a third striker
@Kunal, I think that one is a tricky one. Not sure he is a starter just yet. He just joined up, so he will have to earn that starting spot. I will have an eye on him over the pre-season to see if he looks set to start or if Llorente is not ready come GW1 if it means he or Ayew jump in up there.
Yeah will keep an eye on their pre season
Cheers for this fellas, another cracking article!
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This post is reply gp..strange as i already login but it still say login to reply..all i can do is to post in latest page.mybe it will fix later
Thoughts on Alonso I had him in my first draft but I just cant keep him in I’ve tried but without weakening my MF I just cant do it are others having him ??????
I think one of Chelsea’s wing backs would be very nice. I’m still waiting to see if Azpi will be pushed out there (on the right), and if so I think he’s better value.
@Silvers, I think there are good options for a lot cheaper, but that doesn’t mean that he should be ignored. To some degree it comes down to how repeatable you think what he did is. He probably would have scored over 200 points last season if he would have started from the off. If you think that is where he will end up, then we will all have him at some point, since that would put him in top 5 mid status and he only be worth 7 million. If however he scores well. but not crazy, then you can start making a case for 5.5 guys and saving 1.5 million to invest elsewhere. There is also the idea that you could play him as the 4th defender and pretend he is your 4th midfielder. There will probably be a player or two who is his price or lower that will outscore him, but until that person shows themselves going with Alonso as a placeholder is not the worst idea.
All that is based on the idea that you are really dreading losing him and would prefer to keep him, so just throwing some options out there.
Thanks Mito that interests me playing four at back 3 in MF , when you consider 7m options in MF , he could do a lot better I could , swap say Tadic to Romeu save 2m & in all honesty weren’t far of same points this might be an option 😉
If Chelsea sign Kun are we suddenly in a position where Kun, Jesus & Lukaku are mandatory?
@Banjo, they are not mandatory. Kane could blow that whole plan up, plus if any of the cheaper strikers start off well and I am sure someone will, we will feel the urge to switch over and upgrade elsewhere.
Having said that, if I can get cheap mids that I feel comfortable with, that is probably what I would start with up top.
That’s what sprung to my mind. Can’t see Aguero going to Chelsea to be honest though to be honest.
If Pep really wants rid I guess it’s not impossible
If Aubameyang goes to chelsea, which is probably an easier transfer to pull off, Aguero would surely stay?
He is likely to stay regardless of what happens at Chelsea. Not too many teams would be willing to meet the probable Kun price tag. And the ones who could, Madrid, Barca, Bayern, Juve don’t have a big need for a striker. The other ones would be Chelsea or United (Lukaku already, plus it’s United) and I find it hard to believe that Pep would hand the champion more ammunition to beat City with.
banjomaker,
A mouthwatering temptation, but anytime I go over about 28 million for forwards, I weaken my midfield-where the points have been (assuming I have 4.5 defenders who play). Perhaps, for math purposes, Firmino is still a mid….
A similar problem. Kane plus Lukaku almost seems to commit to a 4-4-2?
I’ve tried playing around with a team that accommodates all three, and it’s really tough. Not sure which of those three I could live without though.
It would break my heart if Kun goes to Chelsea! Hes the only player from another team that I really like! Top top player! Would love him at The Arsenal! In fact if Sanchez does goes to city and I was kronke I would make sure Kun came the other way!!
Kun to Chelsea and Sanchez to City and Wenger thinks Iwobi to fill in the Sanchez position
But Kun Won’t go to Chelsea. I’m worried that Auba seems to prefer a Milan move.
According to La Gazzetta dello Sport Morata is close to sign with AC Milan
Ah fair enough I’m not convinced by Morata
Same hopefully they wont Pursue Aubameyang then Chelsea is the most likeley destination for him i think
Here’s a rough team based on Kun at Chelsea, and keeping Lukaku + Jesus. You certainly compromise a lot on balance.
This is my effort
Or Ritchie and Tadic instead of Herrera and Rambo
I think I prefer yours 😉
I had been playing about with it with Lacazette. I am a bit tempted because I’m not a fan of a lot of the midfield prices
I initially thought it was a bad idea, but now I’m tempted!
Hello everyone
Nice to be back on site with everyone.after long, hope all are re-energised for the new season
First draft of the season for me, RMT please
Forgot to add team :p
Most of it looks good. Firmino’s new position rules him out for me now.
Go with Defoe?
Also I think he will still be good and maybe even score more with Salah and Mane on wings and Coutinho behind him. Though he needs to be more selfish and score more
Can’t argue against Defoe is always scores goals
You could be right. However he will have to score a lot more goals now he’s a forward instead of a midfielder.
He’s too unselfish for a striker but with that pace in attack I would want one of them though can’t afford Mane or Salah About Defoe he will be in better team now and more attacking team so let’s see
I agree. Firmino isn’t ruthless enough for a leading striker imo. He’ll get goals, but more than Defoe or even Benteke? I’m not sure.
Snookie!
I concur with smash! Firmino life in fantasy footie has come to an end……
Unless he starts banging in a brace most weeks.. 😉
A city striker would look awesome in your team
@Snookie, think that is a real solid side.
A thought I had in a chat yesterday on Firmino.
Firmino’s stats don’t tell the full story, people are stuck on his decrease in fpl points next season, but also forget that he played about 40% of the games out left or right. Sounds to me like LFC has now stopped doing experiments and will play him at 9 continuously. He can score and guessing that not being moved around as much could mean more consistency. He had a season in Germany where he scored 16, he can score. Plus I think LFC creates even more chances this season. Plus he is cheaper. Coutinho was my go to guy last season and he still could be, but I have to see how deep and how involved he is.
Why is Firmino being written off just because he has now
been classed as a striker?!
It matters not what he scored last season as a midfielder – it only matters now what he scores compared to the likes of Kun, Kane, Luk, Lucozade, Benteke, Defoe, Jesus etc.
I do agree with this Mito, in the sense that he being now a forward does not necessarily diminish he’s points potential. During the vast majority of last season we all acknowledged that he was very good when playing up front and not that good when on the wing so what we need to know here is what are Klopp’s intentions.
Being an OOP mid helped, of course, but he’s 8.5 playing in an attacking side ran by Klopp.
If there are no signs of a proper striker being purchased and if we are sure he’s their main man up top he could prove a shrewd investment at 8.5. He’s in my auto-complete-ish draft and I would like him to stay there. It solves the ‘having some liverpool attack’ conundrum in the form of their less expensive one and it works on a general budget perspective.
Well, I also agree with that Cookie! Was writing while you posted that!
Speaking of slightly under-the-radar players I would like your views on Mkhitaryan. Does he look nailed from what you’ve seen so far and will the “mourinho-second-season” along with the “lukaku isn’t the star of the team and thus more responsibility for Miki” factors help his cause? Priced at 8£ this could be another shrewd investment.
Yeah, because if he was a 8.5 mid he be on every team and I get that, but like you say, people are committing the mistake of comparing him to him as a midfielder and not just evaluating him vs other forwards. Think he is better than any option at his price or lower, plus he probably outscores several of the six tagged at a higher price. He finished fourth in points last season, if he or is healthy, fourth is about where he might land. Think he scores about the same…180 or possibly more.
Thing in he’s still not guaranteed to play up front well every week anyway. They still have Sturridge and Origi about. He will get less points when he scores and assists as a striker. He will also be less likely to get bonus points now because of this. Not completely dismissing him because he’s playing in an attacking Liverpool team but their points are always spread between all their attacking players as it is
Yeah I had Miki originally. With the likely signing of Perisic in his position there is going to be even more competition and rotation there
Valid points there Smash. I would contra-contra-contra argument that when he played on the wings it was more a case of no other options for that than the need to sub him up top. Bottom line is I think Klopp prefers him up top ahead of Studge and or Origi any day and with Salah around one would imagine that bar injuries he won’t be needed on the wing.
As per the points situation, as Mito said, that’s an argument where you are comparing him to him as a mid and not vs other strikers. What we need to do regarding Firmino is reset what we make of him as a mid and simply look at the forwards list and try to figure out if 8.5 is good value for him. I think it is, unless we see him being played on the wing.
I didn’t get the assists comment though, as they count the same regardless of the player’s position on the field.
Perisic is a winger, Miki is not. But Perisic potential signing does make me wonder which will be Utd’s first XI, so I’ll add that to my query Cookie!
@Smash, he will lose points for goals scored and a clean sheet, but his possibility of bonus points goes up. That was one part of him playing oop that was not helping him. He now gets more bps for a goal and nothing in terms of bps is lowered by him being a striker. If anything he is more likely to get more bonus points. Now that won’t make up for the 22 points lost, but it starts to chip at it, all of sudden if he scores 15 instead of 11 which is possible if he is kept up top then you are still looking at 180 plus
DMC, if there is evidence of United playing a more expansive game then Mikhi & Pogba become really
Interesting.
I think he’s a proper player who will both score and assist in an attacking side.
There is an argument that he is better value than Lukaku given United’s goals may well be shared around.
True Perisic is an out and out winger but is still competition for Miki. My worry is that he won’t play every week Mourinho always seems to rotate them all
Totally agree with Cookie that he has the potential to be better value than Lukaku and he a bargain. Just worried he will be in and out all the time. I have had him in drafts
Not sure if Firmino will get enough goals for a forward though to rake the points in. Don’t forwards only get bonus points really when they score. I got the assists points thing wrong though
They get bps for everything that a mid would, but most don’t drop deep enough to help their bps tally by making recoveries and other stuff, so that’s why they are mostly goal dependent. He does do a lot of the other work, just look at his bps tally and bonus points in general. If he was classified as a forward he would have finished third among all forwards for bps, leap frogging Kun and Costa. He helps himself a great deal by providing key passes.
Smash, stop making me defend Firmino, I don’t appreciate it mate. 😉
There was me thinking you just loved his tattoos Mito
It helps