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New Fantasy Premier League Transfers 2019/20 – Che Adams and Joelinton

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New Fantasy Premier League Transfers 2019/20 – Che Adams and Joelinton

New Fantasy Premier League Transfers 2019/20 – Che Adams and Joelinton

A tale of two £6m strikers. A tale of red cards, mediocre statistics, wishful thinking, youthful promise, Mike Ashley, Steve Bruce, Mark Hughes (yes!), anti-Moneyball, stating the bleeding obvious, dodgy hamstrings, James Beattie (yes!) and smoke & mirrors.

A more positive intro you’d be hard pressed to find… and you’re probably thinking you know where this one is going already. And you’d probably be right to be fair. But don’t judge just yet, let’s go see if we can find some positives amongst what ostensibly appears to be a roasting.

Joelinton
Newcastle United
FPL price: £6.0m

(Photo by Serena Taylor/Newcastle United via Getty Images)

It’s not often a beleaguered Newcastle United fan wakes up to a headline of ‘Toon break transfer record for Brazilian striker’. Lord knows what they were all thinking when they saw that… ‘Surely it’s not Neymar…’, ‘Richarlison perhaps…?!’. Not quite. And presumably they all just said what we thought when they heard the name ‘Joelinton’,… “WHOOOOOOOO?!”.

If your knowledge of obscure bit part players at Hoffenheim is better than ours then we apologise and doth our cap but we couldn’t help but think ‘what the hell is Ashley playing at now’. A record signing that blows the previous one (£20m for Almiron) out of the water is certainly a headline grabber but to what end exactly? Which is probably the issue with Ashley now; nobody believes anything he does is for the right reason. Which is probably because it usually isn’t. We wouldn’t be surprised to find out that the actual upfront fee is about £10m and the add-ons make it up to the headline £40m with promises of £20m ‘I f we win the Champions League’, blah, blah, blah. But maybe that’s just us being cynical… (and speculative, lawyers).

As for the player himself his bare faced stats tell us that he has scored a total of 39 goals in 152 career appearances. 21 of which goals were when on loan at Rapid Wien in 79 appearances. In the Austrian league. So outside of Austria he’s played 73 club games and scored 18 goals. And 7 of those were for Sport Recife. In the only time he’s played in a league anywhere near comparable to the one he’s walking rather expensively into he played 34 and scored 11. Not bad, actually. And that was mainly in the season just gone.

We still can’t quite get past the smoke and mirrors aspect of all this though. He smacks of a home brand Sports Direct product being doubled in price simply to appear as if it is equal to a Nike one in either quality or value for money. Time will tell of course but this one is definitely a wait and see job. The last time we had an expensive (ish / sounding) unknown Brazilian named Jo in the PL he scored once for Man City, 5 times for Everton and has since played for Al Shabab, Jiangsu Suning and Nagoya Grampus….

Opening Fixtures: Arsenal (H), Norwich (A), Spurs (A), Watford (H), Liverpool (A), Brighton (H)
Not the easiest at all then, or certainly a mixed bag at best.

Che Adams
Southampton
FPL price: 6.0m

Club Doctor Steve (Photo by Matt Watson/Southampton FC via Getty Images)

You may have guessed (shame if you didn’t!) that when we do these player profiles we often don’t have first hand experience of every player involved. Few, actually. And as such we rely a bit on Wiki and some other opined sources to give us a general overview / feel for the player and his past. And then we fill in the pieces with our own opinion of the value they may bring to their new club.

On viewing Che’s past online we couldn’t help but notice that red cards were mentioned an awful lot, as were such things as ‘dropped due to lack of attitude in training’ and ‘dropped due to lack of general discipline’. His ability shone through too though as he was named Birmingham’s Young Player of the Season in 2016/17 and then both their Player’s and Supporter’s Player of the Year in 2018/19.

Stats wise you do have to think that this is yet another one not based on any Liverpool style ‘Moneyball’ though as he has just 63 goals in 227 appearances. Or 1 in in every 3.6 games. That’d be 10 goals over a PL season. And 10 of those were for Ilkeston….

Injury wise he looks a bit dodgy too as he’s already ‘done’ for both hamstrings. Add in that he seemingly employed renowned fitness guru James Beattie as his… fitness coach.

Pre-season for Saints has looked a bit more promising though if we are still looking for lights under bushels. Che has grabbed a couple of early goals, albeit against the might of Guangzhou and Aktach. His level, perhaps, if we are being cruel.

Looking for more positives he is at least playing for a progressive manager who is willing to coach players to become better, rather than say Mark Hughes who simply sat in his office typing out excuses to use when they inevitably lost. (Former, very bitter, Saints Team News writer checking in here!).

As for his disciplinary and attitude issues let’s hope he has grown up a bit but we can always blame the parents if not (lawyers; we don’t know anything about them and it is pure conjecture), but as one (well named) fellow pundit (Steve) said to me ‘what do you expect when he is called Che’….. (For the record they called him Che Zach Everton Fred Adams). Seriously.

Opening Fixtures: Burnley (A), Liverpool (H), Brighton (A), Man Utd (H), Sheffield Utd (A), Bournemouth (H)
Certainly not the worst that, ignore the Liverpool game and it’s probably fairly decent.

Thanks for reading New Fantasy Premier League Transfers 2019/20 – Che Adams and Joelinton. This article was written by Inittowinit WCC Champion 2019

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  1. Anyone know what Dani Ceballos is like? He’s come in at 5.5 I did not think he was a defensive mid

    • I thought he was a number 8 or 10

    • Ask a Madrid fan!! smile

      • Great goal record for the under 21s. He could be a great option if he looks like playing every week for Arsenal. I guess that’s the big if

        • Hi Smash. Hope you are having a nice summer. I think the loan fee is large enough so you would have to think he plays. That said the Suarez deal really didn’t work out for anyone.

        • Yeah all good Dreamers. Hope you are too. Yeah you never know by loan moves. I’m basically looking for a sub 6 million midfielder

      • Thanks Mito that’s great! I’m pretty sure he’ll play consistently, given that he rejected Spurs (or Spurs pulled out, depending on who you believe) on the basis that Poch said he couldn’t guarantee exactly that (if you can believe what you read).

        • To be fair to Poch, he does have more midfield talent at his club, the ones I think about at Arsenal are unreliable at best.

        • Different model as well Pochettino is not one for training another player when there is no chance to buy. Arsenal don’t have much money to spend and need a midfielder to replace Rambo. I’m actually tempted by him

  2. Picking Kane, Sterling and Salah really limits your options to an overall strong squad. Personally think a strong back 5 is the best way to play this season and go for 7-8.5mill midfielders that you know will bag you 150 points each. What you reckon?

    • I think 4 at the back is a nice middle ground compromise, so I’ve gone for 4 at the back, although I gotta admit the reason to include the 4th defender over a 7th attacker still holds true when you’re pondering over 5th defender over your 6th attacker…

    • I have Salah & Kane ,but KDB instead of Sterling. To get him I would have to lose Ederson for a 4.5 to go alongside Button and Digne to a 5.0. It just weakens the team so much for 1 player who will have off days like all players will. But each to their own.

      • It seems that you basicly just have to make two decisions this season:

        Kane or no Kane?

        And is Sterling worth the extra 2.5 over KDB?

        If you just make up your mind about those things it’s easy. Myself have been thinking about that for two weeks now….

        • Kane at 11 mill is a no brainer so Sterling stays out !!

        • They are both great options. Sterling will comfortably outscore KDB I expect but there is a massive difference in price

        • I’m likely to start with Sterling but if I wasn’t I think there’s a stronger case for B Silva than KdB at the moment. KdB is a wait and see for me. If he starts being an unmissable fantasy asset then bringing him in will be easy enough.

          One of the things I’m half pondering is B Silva and Kane but for now Sterling’s got the hot seat.

  3. Liverpool fans – are TAA/Robertson worth trying to get for the extra 0.5 over VVD? VVD didn’t land too far behind the latter 2 in FPL points last season despite everybody raving about them?

    Everton fans – similar question regarding Coleman and Digne. Does Digne have a freer license to roam? Or is it setpieces that led to his successes last season?

    Also Everton fans:

    Final question – Bernard? I remember him taking a while to get into the 11 last season but then did he start getting goals/assists relatively regularly? Is he being overlooked for gylfi/richarlison but could be a bit of a gem?

    • On Robbo and TAA i’d say yes they are, but if that 0,5 is needed elsewhere VVD will do just fine. He’ll probably score a few on corners and such…..

      • +1. I d say something similar about the Everton defenders as well. Though with Zouma and Gueye both going will they struggle at the back this season. As for Bernard I don’t think he generally did much assist or goals wise

    • If I was stuck for 0.5 I’d get VVD. My order of Liverpool players would be Salah, TAA, Robbo, VVD.

      • Yeah I agree with a Kralin here

      • Counter thought. I would go TAA, VVD, Robbo. TAA’s numbers are out of this world even with the price hike and I think he’s going to get better. VVD and Robbo PPM/£m are the same and I listened to a statsbomb guy say that Robbo will likely digress back to the mean this season and now I can’t shake that thought.

  4. CounterThoughts on Bournemouth players. Pretty much every draft has one of their players usually Wilson or Fraser or King with some having two. They are really popular this year but are they good value. Wilson is now 8 million and Fraser is 7.5 yes they had great seasons last year but can they repeat it again. For those prices we really need them to be scoring on a regular basis. They have also had plenty of average seasons as well. Bournemouth are generally expected to finish in the bottom half of the table yet those prices are higher than any Chelsea player for example. Are people just being attracted to them as they have two games against newly promoted teams to start. Newly promoted teams are usually high on confidence to start the season and it’s not often they get thrashed to start with. If they don’t perform is everyone just going to sell them quickly are they the type to keep faith in.

    • I’ve been toying with starting the season with three Bournemouth players…

      Fraser’s pretty superdudeish: goals, assists and bonuses simply flowed from the man last season. Created loads of chances. I’m pretty happy to have him in.

      Wilson would be fighting it out with Jiminez if the latter didn’t have such complex fixtures + Europe. But again I think if you look at Wilson’s output last season – in only 30ish games I think – you cannot but be impressed.

      Bournemouth are an attacking side. I take your point about promoted sides but on paper those are not difficult fixtures and Fraser and Wilson are exactly the type of players to exploit them. And beyond too, I hope.

      I tend to roll transfers where possible so have every intention of having 2FT going into GW3. If I go for Ake as well he’ll very much be a placeholder as I have a look at Everton / Chelsea / Man U and I daresay a few defensive players we haven’t thought of yet. But I may not push my luck.

    • I’d also add – I started last season with Firmino, Hughes of Watford, B Silva, Tomkins…you set things up the best you can. GW1 sides never really work out. There are plenty of weeks to paper over the cracks.

    • Big fan of counter thoughts Smash. The best thing at this stage is stress testing your team. It can help make you change your mind and team for the better. Or it can push you to find more reasons to counter the counter thoughts: in GW1 last season Bournemouth faced a newly promoted team (Cardiff) and won 2-0. The scorers were Fraser and Wilson. Bournemouth didn’t face Huddersfield until December. They won 2-1. The scorers were once again Fraser and Wilson.

  5. I believe Manchester United new signings will make impacts. Daniel James and Wan-Bissaka were prolific during this preseason. I also believe in the youngsters too.

    • Welcome to the site Tobe, hope you enjoy it around here. Hope your mad as this will help you no end. laugh

    • Welcome. I’ve not seen much of James I’ve heard he’s been fairly lively. I could do with a 6 million midfielder

  6. Draft No. 65268469
    0.5 itb
    Thoughts?

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